<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4051100879968847504.post8775692099488487958..comments</id><updated>2010-02-01T21:32:04.738-08:00</updated><category term='b 編輯'/><category term='Me'/><category term='Google+'/><category term='Kindle'/><category term='Twitter'/><category term='Listmania'/><category term='Publishing'/><category term='b POD'/><category term='陳穎青'/><category term='DIY'/><category term='c 留言本'/><category term='UX'/><category term='c 老貓'/><category term='b 自助出版'/><category term='b 出版業 行銷'/><category term='數位出版'/><category term='螳臂擋車'/><category term='文創產業'/><category term='老貓學出版'/><category term='TNR'/><category term='Web'/><category term='SNS'/><category term='翻譯'/><category term='c 著作權'/><category term='思考'/><category term='c 轉載'/><category term='台灣'/><category term='b 出版業'/><category term='a 內容'/><category term='數位轉型'/><category term='DRM'/><category term='c Blogger-Hack'/><category term='書評'/><category term='書渴望自由'/><category term='DRM-Free'/><category term='cat'/><category term='c 資源'/><category term='讀書'/><category term='書店'/><category term='b 電子書'/><category term='Site'/><category term='a 閱讀體驗'/><category term='a 出版'/><title type='text'>Comments on 內容推進實驗室: 如果出版社會沒落，出書的品質誰來把關？</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.contnt.net/feeds/8775692099488487958/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.contnt.net/2010/01/book-editor-was-gatekeeper.html'/><author><name>oc</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01381251224977465712</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ah7ojiXKbzk/SogBMuD2UuI/AAAAAAAAAS8/5lWIPwiDLyU/S220/susi.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>8</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4051100879968847504.post-3159850750115692750</id><published>2010-02-01T21:32:04.738-08:00</published><updated>2010-02-01T21:32:04.738-08:00</updated><title type='text'>在學術界，在哪裡出版可是十分重要的，乃因大學高層只會看出版社來衡量一部著作的學術品質，如在OUP、C...</title><content type='html'>在學術界，在哪裡出版可是十分重要的，乃因大學高層只會看出版社來衡量一部著作的學術品質，如在OUP、CUP出版的，那就肯定沒人質疑其品質。這對考績、升遷有莫大關係，可是頭等大事呀。</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/3159850750115692750'/><link 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xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-361645000'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4051100879968847504.post-6013701518330816813</id><published>2010-01-28T11:30:36.504-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-28T11:30:36.504-08:00</updated><title type='text'>我倒是覺得，出版社經歷過一翻淘汰後，「新型態」的出版社將會成為新出版市場上的過濾者......或者說...</title><content type='html'>我倒是覺得，出版社經歷過一翻淘汰後，「新型態」的出版社將會成為新出版市場上的過濾者......或者說出版經紀公司。&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;從報業和唱片產業的轉變可以做為借鏡，我認為：&lt;br /&gt;１．出版社將會後知後覺到出版寒冬都已經不可收拾，才會發現需要轉型，就像唱片業者對於ｍｐ３和ｐ２ｐ的來襲後知後覺一樣。&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;２．參考唱片產業的行銷手法：音樂變得短小淺薄，套入在手機、遊戲或影劇中，未來出版產業會有多出一塊新的利基在於出版品以外的地方，例如食譜出版品會套入在電子冰箱、旅遊出版品則接入手機......都可以用很便宜的價格做超大量的行銷，可能一則只要五塊錢，有圖有字有影音，這些有設計的訊息、必須要容易廣受群眾接受的訊息，不是資訊產業一天兩天就能追上或替代的，資訊產業與新媒體出版業的合作是必然的，就看出版業什麼時候覺悟。&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;３．上則是講生活實用出版業，工具類出版業則是要擔任”篩選”的工作，給予各種更多、更確實、更精準的標籤與資訊，讓讀者更可以在森林中找到他們真正要的書。哪間出版社”篩選”的功夫做得好，就會有越多支持者。&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;這將會成為新的「出版品牌」。Ａ社的資訊叢書標的最清，Ｂ社的醫學分類更新最快，誰分類可以讓越多讀者接受，也就能取得新的利基，Web2.0好處是可以接受到其他讀者的訊息，但Web2.0也將會面臨資訊太過量的時候，哪間出版社(或資訊業者)有辦法整理、利用這些過量的資訊，成為他們自己的標籤，他們就贏了。&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;４．文學類別出版......我則同意您的看法，作者將完全凌駕於出版社，但如果觀看彎彎之於自轉星求的模式，我認為「經紀型態」的出版社也會成為一種新的出版業。如果作者影響力比出版社大，那出版社不要去帶領作者，而是擔任幫作者「加速成長」、「擴張影響」的工作，也是一種好選擇。&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;我只是一介學生，一點點淺見，在這裡賣弄了，請多指教。</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/6013701518330816813'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/6013701518330816813'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.contnt.net/2010/01/book-editor-was-gatekeeper.html?showComment=1264707036504#c6013701518330816813' title=''/><author><name>市井小民</name><uri>http://www.wretch.cc/blog/senmen</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image 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href="http://http://americaneditor.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/the-ebook-wars-the-gatekeeper-role/" rel="nofollow"&gt;這裡&lt;/a&gt;有人用編輯的角度護衛出版社的價值（英文）。毫無疑問那裡說的是實情。但在產業的競爭和利潤分配之下，最可能的情況是，新人作者有求於出版社，他們甚至會不計利益只求出版社出版他們的書稿。而作者成名之後，他就沒辦法再忍受出版社的「剝削」了。人家電書平台可以給我七十％呢。&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;這是產業鏈裡利潤分配的現實。出版社永遠也無法跟銷售平台抗衡。</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/1862745568807482632'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/1862745568807482632'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.contnt.net/2010/01/book-editor-was-gatekeeper.html?showComment=1264674990343#c1862745568807482632' title=''/><author><name>oc</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01381251224977465712</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ah7ojiXKbzk/SogBMuD2UuI/AAAAAAAAAS8/5lWIPwiDLyU/S220/susi.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.contnt.net/2010/01/book-editor-was-gatekeeper.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4051100879968847504.post-8775692099488487958' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/posts/default/8775692099488487958' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-271574692'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4051100879968847504.post-1793422013949789678</id><published>2010-01-28T02:10:44.078-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-28T02:10:44.078-08:00</updated><title type='text'>鄒老師：

[Video書] 文字和影像是用不同的大腦工作的。經常來回切換對很多人是不容易做到的哩。...</title><content type='html'>鄒老師：&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[Video書] 文字和影像是用不同的大腦工作的。經常來回切換對很多人是不容易做到的哩。</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/1793422013949789678'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/1793422013949789678'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.contnt.net/2010/01/book-editor-was-gatekeeper.html?showComment=1264673444078#c1793422013949789678' title=''/><author><name>oc</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01381251224977465712</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ah7ojiXKbzk/SogBMuD2UuI/AAAAAAAAAS8/5lWIPwiDLyU/S220/susi.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.contnt.net/2010/01/book-editor-was-gatekeeper.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4051100879968847504.post-8775692099488487958' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/posts/default/8775692099488487958' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-271574692'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4051100879968847504.post-5065141956717836949</id><published>2010-01-28T02:04:25.313-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-28T02:04:25.313-08:00</updated><title type='text'>是的，「起點」很紅哩。

不過我說得出版社沒落，倒不是說出版社「消失」。出版社可能還在，但所有那些編...</title><content type='html'>是的，「起點」很紅哩。&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;不過我說得出版社沒落，倒不是說出版社「消失」。出版社可能還在，但所有那些編校排版行銷會變成一種服務。出版社變成服務公司，失去主導產業的角色，產業由電書平台和作者主導。出版社不會消失，只是變成配角。跟紙書時代，印刷廠由主角變成配角的歷史很像。</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/5065141956717836949'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/5065141956717836949'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.contnt.net/2010/01/book-editor-was-gatekeeper.html?showComment=1264673065313#c5065141956717836949' title=''/><author><name>oc</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01381251224977465712</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ah7ojiXKbzk/SogBMuD2UuI/AAAAAAAAAS8/5lWIPwiDLyU/S220/susi.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.contnt.net/2010/01/book-editor-was-gatekeeper.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4051100879968847504.post-8775692099488487958' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/posts/default/8775692099488487958' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-271574692'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4051100879968847504.post-935166351956807829</id><published>2010-01-28T01:32:10.552-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-28T01:32:10.552-08:00</updated><title type='text'>你可以看看qidian.com这个网站，收费小说阅读，已经盈利。
自己出书的问题是，写书和出书需要的...</title><content type='html'>你可以看看qidian.com这个网站，收费小说阅读，已经盈利。&lt;br /&gt;自己出书的问题是，写书和出书需要的专业技能不一样。有的人擅长写字，有的人擅长校对，有的人擅长营销，有的人擅长配图，排版。书，不仅仅是文字。</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/935166351956807829'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/935166351956807829'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.contnt.net/2010/01/book-editor-was-gatekeeper.html?showComment=1264671130552#c935166351956807829' title=''/><author><name>wsxl</name><uri>http://wsxl.blogspot.com/</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/openid16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.contnt.net/2010/01/book-editor-was-gatekeeper.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4051100879968847504.post-8775692099488487958' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/posts/default/8775692099488487958' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-808491501'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4051100879968847504.post-9175285640834523136</id><published>2010-01-28T01:07:20.714-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-28T01:07:20.714-08:00</updated><title type='text'>找到合適自己的好書，越來越難，由討論書的社群推薦，將會比由教授組成的年度好書推薦有價值吧？
我認為有...</title><content type='html'>找到合適自己的好書，越來越難，由討論書的社群推薦，將會比由教授組成的年度好書推薦有價值吧？&lt;br /&gt;我認為有圖解和video的投影片，加上比一般ppt詳細的文字解說，會是一種新型式的電子書，有人做嗎？</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/9175285640834523136'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/9175285640834523136'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.contnt.net/2010/01/book-editor-was-gatekeeper.html?showComment=1264669640714#c9175285640834523136' title=''/><author><name>鄒景平</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09504942193265308971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='28' height='32' src='http://goldred.pbwiki.com/f/Jean060923.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.contnt.net/2010/01/book-editor-was-gatekeeper.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4051100879968847504.post-8775692099488487958' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/posts/default/8775692099488487958' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1531494293'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4051100879968847504.post-8926206207225594682</id><published>2010-01-28T00:40:01.672-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-28T00:40:01.672-08:00</updated><title type='text'>恐怕得補充一下。

讀者有濾出好書的需求，作者有幫我發佈出書訊息的需求。這些都是事實，但不足以繼續支...</title><content type='html'>恐怕得補充一下。&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;讀者有濾出好書的需求，作者有幫我發佈出書訊息的需求。這些都是事實，但不足以繼續支撐出版社在數位時代仍然成為產業主導者。</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/8926206207225594682'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/8775692099488487958/comments/default/8926206207225594682'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.contnt.net/2010/01/book-editor-was-gatekeeper.html?showComment=1264668001672#c8926206207225594682' title=''/><author><name>oc</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01381251224977465712</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ah7ojiXKbzk/SogBMuD2UuI/AAAAAAAAAS8/5lWIPwiDLyU/S220/susi.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.contnt.net/2010/01/book-editor-was-gatekeeper.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4051100879968847504.post-8775692099488487958' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/4051100879968847504/posts/default/8775692099488487958' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-271574692'/></entry></feed>
